A talent calculator, read from the game

What this site is

Talents Forever is a talent calculator for World of Warcraft: Forever. It holds the full talent trees for all nine classes, every race's racial abilities, the account-wide Legacy perks, and a spellbook for each class. You click out a build, watch the points add up, colour in what changed since Classic, and share the whole thing as a link.

It is free to use. There is no account and nothing to buy, and nothing is kept behind a login. The only sign-up is optional: leave an email address if you want a note when a class guide is up or a new build moves the trees.

Where the numbers come from

Every talent, every rank of tooltip text, every racial and every spellbook row is read out of the World of Warcraft: Forever game client itself, with one exception. Each spellbook's General tab is kept by hand, mostly from in-game reads, and each tooltip there says where it was read. Blizzard also changes numbers with hotfixes that only reach the game when you log in, so those are read from the game too and laid over the files. When a new build or hotfix lands, the numbers are read again and the differences are written up on the changes page, build by build.

Files are only half the job. On launch day every class's spell tooltips were read in game and set beside the site's, and the Mage spellbook has been checked against a real city trainer, because a game file can carry a line the game never shows you. Each page says plainly what has been checked and what is still being worked through.

Readers keep it honest

A good share of the fixes come from people who play. A rank that reads wrong, a weapon requirement the files leave out, a spell that is not where the data said it would be. Every report is checked against the client before a single number moves.

When a report turns out to be right, the reader who sent it is credited by name on the site, in What's new, next to the change they found. That credit is the point. This is a small site that gets better because people take the time to say something.

The data is yours to take

All of it is published as plain JSON. One file per class, for example talentsforever.com/export/warrior.json, and the whole set at once at talentsforever.com/data.json. The talent data is licensed CC BY 4.0, so you are welcome to use it in your own tool, addon, guide or spreadsheet. Just credit the site with a link. Game text, icons and art are Blizzard Entertainment's and are not covered by that licence.

Built on it so far: Class Pilot Forever, a leveling guide addon by Envy4K that reads the trees from here and sends shared builds back to the calculator.

What else is here

• The calculatorWarrior, Paladin, Hunter, Rogue, Priest, Shaman, Mage, Warlock, Druid.
• Every talent in wordsIf you would rather read than click. One page per class.
• RacialsEvery race, Horde, Alliance and Skyborne. Plus changed class abilities and Legacy perks.
• Game changesWhat each build and hotfix did to the trees, from the beta to now.
• IdeasThe in-game addon, what readers voted for in the beta poll, and a box to say what would help you.

Fan-made

This is a fan site. It is not affiliated with, endorsed by or connected to Blizzard Entertainment in any way. World of Warcraft, World of Warcraft: Forever and all of the game art, icons and spell text belong to Blizzard Entertainment. Rights holders can write to hello@talentsforever.com about anything here and will hear back the same day.

Getting in touch

There is a message box on the ideas page that goes straight to the site's inbox, and every message gets read. Contact lists the other ways to reach the site.